Oprah and Friends访谈实录(4)

he did, but he had to, I think. He had to, to get that out. But it was... we were all nervous.

Matt: Yeah, but he didn't expect that... you know, he opened the door and he's standing there and everybody went ballistic that is was him standing there, so I think he kind of got thrown about it.

Jennifer: I don't think he expected that... Oprah: Lisa? Tell us about your cast mates.

Lisa: Well, I mean, there is a running theme with all of them for me. They're all so trustworthy and dependable, which is a very big deal. But Matt, it's what everybody has said, is definitely... you embody trustworthy and dependable, and your heart is huge solid gold. Matt: Wow!

Lisa: (?) (they kiss) And the talent I didn't mention either, because also you're now one of my favourite characters. (they kiss again and Lisa waves to the audience)

Matt: My wife's sitting around over there. (he also waves) Lisa: Uhm, and I mean, we wouldn't be this group without David Schimmer doing his part in the very beginning, saying \way we're not going to resent each other after a negotiation, is if we all get the exact same thing and that was... oh... everything. Brilliant and everything, and he was right. And uhm, Courteney, there's no malice, there's no game. It's just the most honest, dependable, trustworthy person. And then also hilariously funny. Courteney is really an unique person. So... Never met anyone like her. Matthew Perry is, I mean, I know it's been said, you know, one of the funniest people, but, I don't know what I'm gonna do, not seeing you every single day and laughing. I mean, that's something I'm really gonna miss, 'cause I don't know of anyone who makes me laugh as much. And then Jennifer who is just one big throbbing heart... to me... That's supposed to sound good, not... (there's laughing) Because you're all emotion and feeling and support. She's right there with you. Even if you said \

accidentally killed someone.\couldn't have been your fault.\you know. Just that kind of loyal,

unconditional support and love, is who you are to me. Just... yeah...

Jennifer: Thank you.

Lisa: And talented. She throws her scriptt away practically, like the minute she gets it, 'cause it's got to, you know, she's working from in here, and she gets it right. It's unbelievable to watch her work. Yeah.

Oprah: That's fantastic. [Coming up clip:

Oprah's voice: Coming up, Courteney and Jennifer talk babies. And, a friend on the brink. Matthew Perry on his struggle with addiction, and his life or death decision.

Matthew: If I keep living my life this way, there isn't gonna be any life. ]

COMMERCIAL BREAK

[We see some real-life photographs of the girls' and Matt's weddings and also relatives of the cast:

Oprah: In real life, four of the six friends have tied the knot. Lisa Kudrow was the first, marrying advertising executive Michael Stern. She was also the first off-screen mom. Their son Julian is five years old. Courteney Cox was next. She walked down the isle with actor David Arquette. Two years ago, Jennifer Aniston said \the latest Friend to hear wedding bells was Matt Le Blanc, who married long time love Melissa McKnight in a romantic ceremony, high on top a Hawaiian cliff.]

Oprah: Okay, so let's talk about some of your life changes off camera. Okay? Matt, you recently married. Matt: Yes.

Oprah: And you're expecting your first baby?

Matt: Yes, we are. Well, she has two from her first marriage. Kyle and Jaqueline, they're great.

Oprah: Uh-huh. And I hear you are great with them.

Matt: Uhm... I don't wanna answer that myself, but yes I am. Jennifer: Amazing.

Oprah: (to Melissa who is in the audience) Is he? Is he great with them?

Melissa: Great!

Oprah: Yeah, great with them. Okay, and now... So what's it like to be ex-pect-ing?

Matt: It's exciting, yeah. It's great. It's uhm... a pregnant woman is a beautiful thing. (the audience and Jennifer say aaaaahhhh and applaud)

Oprah: Boy, you are gonna win a lot of points for that, Matt. Matt: Oh, I'm in. I'm in!

Oprah: Everybody is like: \is that Joey show coming on?\Well, everybody who knows Matthew went through a life crisis and really inspired a whole lot of people actually, when you revealed your addiction and you got a lot of help. I thought that that was really amazing that you had the courage to do that. Matthew: Thank you. Oprah: Yeah.

Matthew: Yeah. (the audience applauds) Oprah: What saved you?

Matthew: Uhm, you know, it actually had very little to do with courage at first. It's really a... it's kind of a life or death... kind of situation. So what saved me was finally getting a bit of clarity in my life and realising that this was... this was it. If I keep living my life this way, there isn't gonna be any life. So you ultimately kind of... I guess the keyword is \and you realise that you need help, so you finally ask for it and you realise the \Oprah: Was it hard to see a friend in trouble? For you guys? David?

David: Yeah...

Oprah: Watching a friend in trouble?

David: It was really... yeah... It was really hard.

Oprah: Yeah. And I think that I read that you said this Matthew, that you knew that even though there were other people trying to help save you that you had to hit your own personal bottom. Matthew: Yeah, I mean, look... I mean, you've been able to see in the last half hour how wonderful all these guys are, you know, and these are the people that I work with, you know. Uhm, but it is... it really is for anybody out there struggling, you need to realise that it's time to do something about it, because you're so closed off to everything. So the most loving group of people who are saying every day, you know... We love you, can we help, doesn't really work until you realise you have to... Oprah: Until you hit it yourself? Matthew: Yeah.

Oprah: And is there a moment or are there a series of moments? Matthew: For me there was a moment. There was a moment when you just kind of... It's kind of like God just... kind of opens a window, or shines a light on your situation for one split second. Oprah: Can you tell us what that was, or is that too personal? Matthew: Uh... The actual details of it are too personal, but it was, I mean, it hit me like a flash. It was like OH! Look what I've been doing for the last few years of my life, and now it's... That has to come first, before anything. So that's why I walked off a movie set and I stopped doing everything that... Oprah: Leave to pull it together.

Matthew: Pull it together with help from people who are much smarter than me about this.

Oprah: 'Cause the Matthew Perry Plan sucked! Got that! Okay, so Jen... When this is all done, do you wanna go home and have babies? Jennifer: Yes. Gonna do that.

Oprah: Will you do it immediately, so as soon as the show is... Jennifer: I'll have them here in the dressing room... Waiting... Oprah: Yeah, yeah... Do you think that the part of the whole Friends and the... everything that has happened in the past decade has, you know, sort of kept you from it?

Jennifer: It's just, you know, I think the opportunity just hasn't really presented itself. And it just uhm, I mean there is that weird little knocking, itching thing that starts to happen as you enter in your thirties. Oprah: Are you itching?

Jennifer: I'm itching a little bit, yeah. Like I'll... I'll take a puppy that I see and just devour it. I mean, like any little thing, you know, even little Matty sometimes. (Matthew has a question mark on his face, they laugh) Yeah, I mean definitely. It's that time, it's the good chapter, you know, and the ending of this time period. And now on to the next chapter... It's good. Oprah: Yeah. Same thing. Courteney, in a recent interview I read you talking about having children. Courteney: Yes, I want to. Oprah: You want to too? Courteney: Yeah, desperately.

Oprah: You itching? You're feeling the itch?

Courteney: Yeah, I'm 39. I've been itching for quite a while, actually. But...

Matthew: Maybe \

Jennifer: (very indistinct) Well, he looks like a child sometimes. (Matthew kisses her) Kind of like a child.

Oprah: (to Lisa) Everybody says you're an amazing mom. Lisa: Really?

Oprah: What made... Yeah!

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